The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum

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Oh, and if they're not "demons" then what are they and how can I avoid them.

Let's say that hostile spirits exist and you can actually get possessed by them- why are you so worried about it? If it happens at all it certainly doesn't happen all the time! It's something you really, really don't need to worry about. But, just so you know, exorcism rituals are not limited to Christianity. They can be found in many different religions.

I'm not sure if I can answer that because I just don't know. I used to watch these types of movies all the time (paranormal 1 &  2)but then I had a... "visit" from an entity that lasted weeks. He didn't do anything threatening to me (my ex boyfriend claimed a hand came in the shower when the house was empty idk) but I felt like it was not good, it terrified me. I always slept by the edge because that's where the play pen was for my baby. My boyfriend slept by the wall. I felt like I was in the way. I would never open my eyes. I could feel terror constantly trying to make its way out of my throat, I wanted to scream but my kids would be there. The feeling of having pressure on all sides was awful and constrictive. At first I thought I'm having panic attacks. Then my bf said "oh yeah? You too?" then one night all the kids were gone and there was rustling in her bed. Stuff sliding across the floor that there was no way a fan could do it. Like game consoles and stuff.
For some reason one night, I wasn't "pagan" at this point, the thought of imagining a purple and white neon circle around each individual person came in my head. I made the circles spin until the formed a cone and said a little prayer. The first time I immediately felt calmer. I was always the last one to get a circle. But it felt like I could finally breathe in my room (which I avoided until bedtime but I refused to go in alone and my boyfriend purposely shut me in there during an Argument once, the ass).

Anyways we moved not too long after. Oh and Btw without us saying anything our kids told us the house was haunted. I don't know what they saw or heard but it scared me enough we moved. I knew how bad it scared me and I didn't want my kids feeling that. For some reason I honestly think it wanted my boyfriend and I was just in the way.

The point to this flash back is that since then I have not been able to watch paranormal movies. Even the fake ones like paranormal that I loved and thought were hilarious. I haven't watched the last two. My husband talked me into the Conjuring.

I think what scares me most is seeing how those people act, supposedly real, trying to kill their kids and their family. I get scared thinking I could ever do that to my kids. And if it did happen, how would they ever feel love for me again? The person who is supposed to love you the most and protect you is now try going to kill you?

I'm also worried because I've heard... Somewhere, that certain emotions? Energy? Can actually store up (not sure of right way to say that) and develop it's own consciousness. If this is true, then I would think that consciousness would manifest with the intent of whatever type of energy caused it. Anger, hatred, selfishness = bad consciousness or love, happiness =good consciousness. Maybr I'm completely wrong about that. But if I'm right then wouldn't it also create havoc on the ones who "created"  it even if it was unintended?

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Would something like that be able to possess someone? Or just make things worse?

There's a lot of hatefullness, selfishness, anger, and stuff at my house. I have seven kids full time, 3 of which have issues because of their mom's recent (few years) choices. Then it was brought to my house. Added to what was already chaos here. My kids also have anger issues, partly the divorce, which was awful. But their dad has a temper and in the last year my temper has greatly increased, even more so since I have all seven full time (thank the gods for school) even my two year old has an unbelievable temper.

I'm feeling very worn thin, I feel like m not in control anymore. I can't leave my husband because I would be left with no income and I can't work. I'm currently filing for disability. My father in law lives with us and helps me greatly but he can't work either. Hopefully his disability is approved in Jan at court.  My husband doesn't appreciate anything I do. In fact he told me just a week ago that taking care of the house, the yard, the kids, running errands, paying bills, and going to school was NOT a REAL job and therefore I was not entitled to complain about anything. Even though he absolutely knows that he couldn't handle my "non job" for even a day. He idea of taking care of the kids is to lock hi. Self in our room and open the door occasionally to yell.

Sorry that turned into confessional, lol. Point is there's alot of super negative emotions around here. My husband knows my religious choices but my father in law and kids don't. Around here in this area, it could cause problems. So anything I ever do has to be "hidden" which is a downer for me. I can't even say "omgs" to the wrong person.

To me this seems like the perfect opportunity for something bad to slip in and get in my business. So I don't know what to do. I'm  not sure if this paranoia is because of the entity experience or if it came on its own.

And thinking about that. He would I know if something isn't here already and adding to the turmoil? Making it worse?

And OMFGS I didn't mean for this type be a book. I'm so sorry.

Exorcisms in Pagan religions often are a bit more active than just praying to a deity (or deities), but yes, other religions (and non-religious magical systems for that matter) can exorcise demons and other hostile spirits.

So does getting hit by lightning. And unless you are doing something like unprotected channeling of random spirits, your chance of being possesses is probably less than you chance of being hit by lightning out of the clear sky -- in other words, not a zero chance, but fairly close to a zero chance.

Other than remembering to not take silly chances like channeling any random spirit you encounter with proper protection (just like you shouldn't stand outside where you are the highest point around during a thunderstorm), you really don't need to worry much about being possessed any more than you need to worry much about being hit by lightning.

A lot of things can be mistaken for demon possession, including mental illness, high fever, drug interactions, etc. This is one of the reasons the Catholic Church has a careful investigative procedure before they authorize an exorcism.

Thank you! I feel better. I guess I should have asked a long time ago.

Was I right about the consciousness thing or did I have that skewed?

I get scared thinking I could ever do that to my kids.

 
I have just two small kids to take care of on my own most of the time, and that is often overwhelming. So of course you have a lot of negative emotions to deal with, considering your much more complicated situation.

But your current problems aren't supernatural (despite past experiences with random negative entities). I'm not a professional, but you should be aware that there are psychological conditions that can cause exactly the kind of anxieties you're having. I think you really need more support than you're getting, but on top of that I think you should probably talk to a professional counselor if you can.

I have just two small kids to take care of on my own most of the time, and that is often overwhelming. So of course you have a lot of negative emotions to deal with, considering your much more complicated situation.

But your current problems aren't supernatural (despite past experiences with random negative entities). I'm not a professional, but you should be aware that there are psychological conditions that can cause exactly the kind of anxieties you're having. I think you really need more support than you're getting, but on top of that I think you should probably talk to a professional counselor if you can.

I agree. I just have to be careful. A regular dr put me on Prozac because he said my stress and anxiety needed to be controlled before I had a breakdown. But it pissed off my pain dr cuz he said the Prozac isn't the best combo with my fibro myalgia medicine and the ambien could kill me. Eh.

... the thought of imagining a purple and white neon circle around each individual person came in my head. I made the circles spin until the formed a cone and said a little prayer. The first time I immediately felt calmer. I was always the last one to get a circle.

 
Not having all the intimate details of your situation, I might be off base here, but I was struck by your comment about being the last one to get a circle. It reminded me of the airplane safety lecture - adjust your own oxygen mask before assisting others.

There's a lot of cultural pressure for women to be caretakers and to be giving of themselves. But it's important to make sure you have enough energy left over to care for yourself, too.

Apologies if that was assuming too much and/or not relevant to you or your question.  It was just something that stuck out at me.

I agree. I just have to be careful. A regular dr put me on Prozac because he said my stress and anxiety needed to be controlled before I had a breakdown. But it pissed off my pain dr cuz he said the Prozac isn't the best combo with my fibro myalgia medicine and the ambien could kill me. Eh.

 
I am of no help on the demon front but speaking as someone with fibro, anxiety, and depression...please don't give up on finding a combination of meds that will work for you. With all your responsibilities and the stress you are under, you need to be able to function daily and get a good nights rest. It took a while for my doctors to find the right combo but now I am in a very good place health-wise and my life is much improved because of it.

Anyway, that is my 2 cents on the fibro/anxiety issue. (((Hugs))) for you. Sending positive vibes your direction.

--Kay