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Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« on: January 29, 2013, 01:25:14 pm »
As it says, I'm just wondering why there doesn't appear to be any specific section of the forum for Wicca. There is, of course, a lot of material for "witchcraft" and general magical traditions in general. However, as far as I understand, Wicca is a distinct religious tradition that includes witchcraft, not something that is synonymous with it. Since Wicca is one of the larger Pagan traditions, I am just curious as to why there is no specific sub-forum for this religion.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 01:28:14 pm »
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As it says, I'm just wondering why there doesn't appear to be any specific section of the forum for Wicca. There is, of course, a lot of material for "witchcraft" and general magical traditions in general. However, as far as I understand, Wicca is a distinct religious tradition that includes witchcraft, not something that is synonymous with it. Since Wicca is one of the larger Pagan traditions, I am just curious as to why there is no specific sub-forum for this religion.

 
Could just be that nobody's requested it before?

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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 01:29:52 pm »
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Could just be that nobody's requested it before?

 
I think that's it. SIGs come up through request. We didn't start out with an Asatru forum when I first joined TC, for example.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 01:37:12 pm »
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Could just be that nobody's requested it before?

 
It also has a lot to due with Wicca being hard to define.  Would it be just BTW or would NeoWicca also be included?


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Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 01:39:41 pm »
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It also has a lot to due with Wicca being hard to define.  Would it be just BTW or would NeoWicca also be included?

And perhaps also with much 'inner-court' material being oathbound?
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 01:48:55 pm »
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Could just be that nobody's requested it before?

 
Quote from: Sage;94213
I think that's it. SIGs come up through request. We didn't start out with an Asatru forum when I first joined TC, for example.


Thanks! That does makes sense. I think it would be interesting to have a Wicca SIG, but as I am not a Wiccan, and only have a wikipedia-level of knowledge about it, I am probably not the one to make such a request.
 
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It also has a lot to due with Wicca being hard to define.  Would it be just BTW or would NeoWicca also be included?


A question much brighter minds (or at least minds more knowledgeable about Wicca) than myself would need to answer!
 
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And perhaps also with much 'inner-court' material being oathbound?

 
Yes, I suppose one wouldn't go throwing around such knowledge on public internet forums.


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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 02:17:35 pm »
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As it says, I'm just wondering why there doesn't appear to be any specific section of the forum for Wicca. There is, of course, a lot of material for "witchcraft" and general magical traditions in general. However, as far as I understand, Wicca is a distinct religious tradition that includes witchcraft, not something that is synonymous with it. Since Wicca is one of the larger Pagan traditions, I am just curious as to why there is no specific sub-forum for this religion.

 
Couple of reasons:

1) Definitional ones - I don't identify as Wiccan, f'ex, but most non-trad definitions of Wicca comfortably include me. How does a sig work with that?

2) The oathbound issue (there *is* a fair bit of non-oath material that can be discussed, but see point 3)

3) We've never had *that* many trad Wiccan members. We've usually had a small handful active at any given time, and then a bunch more that identify as eclectic Wiccans or Wiccan influenced, or initiatory religious witchcraft from other strands of practice, or whatever - all of which can cover a huge range of possible topics and approaches. In contrast, the recon-focused SIGs have a much narrower and better defined focus on what they are interested in talking about together.

4) Related, we've never seemed to have a burning need for one: one of the reasons for the SIGs is that it can be hard to find specific material when it's scattered across the board: the SIGs make it easier to browse some of those conversations/track long-running conversations. While some of those topics (initiation, f'ex) come up regularly on the general board, there just aren't that many of them in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 03:52:48 pm »
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Couple of reasons:

1) Definitional ones - I don't identify as Wiccan, f'ex, but most non-trad definitions of Wicca comfortably include me. How does a sig work with that?

2) The oathbound issue (there *is* a fair bit of non-oath material that can be discussed, but see point 3)

3) We've never had *that* many trad Wiccan members. We've usually had a small handful active at any given time, and then a bunch more that identify as eclectic Wiccans or Wiccan influenced, or initiatory religious witchcraft from other strands of practice, or whatever - all of which can cover a huge range of possible topics and approaches. In contrast, the recon-focused SIGs have a much narrower and better defined focus on what they are interested in talking about together.

4) Related, we've never seemed to have a burning need for one: one of the reasons for the SIGs is that it can be hard to find specific material when it's scattered across the board: the SIGs make it easier to browse some of those conversations/track long-running conversations. While some of those topics (initiation, f'ex) come up regularly on the general board, there just aren't that many of them in the grand scheme of things.

 
Thanks for your response. Before today, I didn't really understand the "definitional" problems with Wicca, I thought it was actually pretty cut and dried. I guess you learn something everyday.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 04:05:25 pm »
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Thanks for your response. Before today, I didn't really understand the "definitional" problems with Wicca, I thought it was actually pretty cut and dried. I guess you learn something everyday.

 
Let me wave at a page on my website then: http://gleewood.org/seeking/basics/range-of-uses/

(It is there so I can wave at it rather than try to explain it and hope I don't leave something out the next time round.)
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 05:24:59 pm »
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Let me wave at a page on my website then: http://gleewood.org/seeking/basics/range-of-uses/

(It is there so I can wave at it rather than try to explain it and hope I don't leave something out the next time round.)

 
Thanks, that was a very informative read. Given all the ways that "Wicca" is used, it actually makes a lot of sense why there is no specific SIG.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 06:03:08 pm »
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Thanks, that was a very informative read. Given all the ways that "Wicca" is used, it actually makes a lot of sense why there is no specific SIG.

That pretty much covers it. It would be impossible to do some types of Wiccan SIGs anyway. For example a SIG for oathbound discussions would be impossible because (at a minimum) the hosts would have to have access to it.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 10:05:37 pm »
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And perhaps also with much 'inner-court' material being oathbound?

Although the definition discussions appear frequently, most Wiccan-oriented websites contain both Traditional&Eclectic, Neo-Wicca because obviously with inner-court material being non discuss-able, the outer-court which they both share can. Also in regards to seekers&such, inner-court material can be explained without actually breaking any oaths either.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2013, 06:48:54 am »
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Since Wicca is one of the larger Pagan traditions, I am just curious as to why there is no specific sub-forum for this religion.


There are many different Wiccan traditions/paths/etc and a lot of disagreement between those who follow *this* versus those who follow *that* ... you'd end up having to open up a dozen subgroups to keep everyone from stomping on each other's thumbs. :p

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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
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There are many different Wiccan traditions/paths/etc and a lot of disagreement between those who follow *this* versus those who follow *that* ... you'd end up having to open up a dozen subgroups to keep everyone from stomping on each other's thumbs. :p

Lol well it works well in some places minus the subgroups, but thumbs always seem to get stepped on at some stage.
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Re: Curious-Why no Wicca SIG?
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Lol well it works well in some places minus the subgroups, but thumbs always seem to get stepped on at some stage.

 
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