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5 Jul 2012 08:17 PM #1Senior Master Member




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Offensive Deity Statues
I'm always looking around for statues of Norse deities, but while I was searching around I came across this Bast statue: http://www.goddessgift.net/bastet-ca...e-PT-8857.html
Now, I'm not Kemetic, but this statue just struck me as an attempt to turn Bast into a (literal) sex kitten, and it just comes across as racist and, seriously, look at that sideboob!
While I'm at it, here's one of Herne-as-Fabio: http://www.goddessgift.net/gods-hero...-WU75041A4.jpg I'm not going to lie, I kind of like it.
While I'm at it, here's one of Cernunnos where the artist couldn't seem to decide whether he should have horns or antlers (personally, I think he looks very goat-like): http://www.goddessgift.net/cernunnos...WU75711A4.html
ETA: I just saw this statue of Diana: http://www.goddessgift.net/images/di...-WU74615A4.jpg Why is she naked? Why is there a flower covering her genitals and why does her hair look like it's been dressed for a night on the town?
YMMV, of course, but have you ever found a statue to be offensive?
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
I agree I despise the Diana / Artemis one. I have a number of Artemis / Diana statues but that one turns me off. Especially the modern renditions of her in the nude or nearly nude.
I am curious as to why you think the Bast statue is so bad. Yes, I actually have a version of that statue but not quite so heavy in the gold leafing. That she is depicted as black really is not a racical thing if one looks to the area and the influences of the Upper Kingdom upon the lower kingdom and middle kingdom. Nor is it greatly that different from other statuary that depicts Bast in her human form. In many ways not that different from her human / feline headed form either though those (fully human and Feline head human body form) seem rarer than her typcial complete cat form.
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
It just strikes me as particularly sexual when every other statue I've seen of her is modest in comparison, especially when you compare it with the other statues of her on that website, like this one: http://www.goddessgift.net/images/ba...ze-TL-1150.jpg
I guess it's still not as bad as that Diana, or this one: http://www.sacredsource.com/images/ds.jpg Okay, I admit I find this one....aesthetically pleasing....but it's just....just....artistic license can only go so far!
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
That's one of the more traditional Half-human Bast statues, especially the inclusion of the Sistrum (Shesheset) in her right hand. The Shesheset having erotic or fertility connotations with Bast and other goddesses as well. Yet if you look at this one http://www.goddessgift.net/images/ba...ck-PT-8104.jpg The breast are apparent though not as in your face as the intial one of this thread. Other statuary going so far as to display an infant suckling upon the breast of Bast, that one pretty rare.
The Diana / Artemis ones seem to have really jumped into the full nudity portrayals. Yet I truly think a lot of that is owed to the many classical paintings of Diana bathing and the story of Actaeon (Ok, depends upon which historical period and which historian as to whether it is Artermis or Diana in the story). Yet prior to that it's seldom a nude Diana / Artemis less it be a single breast displayed as was believed to show or indicate the Amazons.
Edited to add: Just a side note but the one image shown on that site with a dressed Bast http://www.goddessgift.net/images/Go...20w%20Kits.jpg is actually based upon a might be a semi-nude statue piece which can be seen on this site. There appears to either be arm bands or the cuff of a sleeve being shown if you blow up the picture. I haven't found any better pictures of the image so can't say for sure. Yet the overlap of a garment seems missing on the image. http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kun...ream/bast.htmlLast edited by monsnoleedra; 5 Jul 2012 at 09:59 PM. Reason: additional info
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
The Bast statue is okay. I don't like Her pose though. It does look kinda sexual to me. I would not get this statue personally. I don't think it is racist. I just...don't like the statue.
I strongly dislike this statue of Frigga. It's overly sexual and just inappropriate for the Queen of Asgard, Lady of Fensalir and Goddess of the Hearth and Home. Scandinavian Gods are from cold climates. Depicting them in skimpy garb just seems disingenuous to me.
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
One of my Facebook friends has that statue. They posted about it in one of my groups and we spent time arguing over whether it was Frigga or Freyja (if you look at the bird on the left, it seems to be a falcon) so we finally concluded that the artist must have mixed them up or conflated the two.
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
Oh, I don't like that at all because it isn't sexy enough. The way her legs just flop apart reminds me of Angelina's right leg; both just miss the mark of graceful seduction.
(Is nitpicky.)
Eta: A second look wasn't as bad as my first impression, but still.Last edited by Juniperberry; 6 Jul 2012 at 01:08 AM. Reason: add
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Re: Offensive Deity Statues
I don't have a problem with the Bast one. In fact, I think it's actually pretty good. Is it being a bit on the risque side? Yes. But that's about how I'd picture her. I've seen plenty of cats that seem like if they were people, they would be complete whores and are all about showing off to get affection.
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