Does anyone practice chaos magic?

[voiceofthewitch]

I am currently reading "Condensed Chaos" by Phil Hine , and I'm finding many things to click with my preconceived views. I also found the site, Chaos Matrix.

For example, I've believed the following for a long time:



1) The most powerful magic is magic that is personal. Doing a ceremony/spell that doesn't make sense to you won't be very powerful.

2) We create the bulk of our own reality. i.e., if someone doesn't believe ghosts are possible, it will be very difficult for them to see ghosts, etc.

3) Dieties feed off the energy of its followers. We "create" dieties as separate entities, if you will, out of our own will.

I do not click well with "high magic" or ceremonial-type magic. I prefer low magic, kitchen/hedge magic, and what-not. I think the idea of a sigil is really interesting and personal.

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic, or into it? Or is this a taboo topic?

Thanks!

[spoOk]

I am currently reading "Condensed Chaos" by Phil Hine , and I'm finding many things to click with my preconceived views. I also found the site, Chaos Matrix.

For example, I've believed the following for a long time:

1) The most powerful magic is magic that is personal. Doing a ceremony/spell that doesn't make sense to you won't be very powerful.

2) We create the bulk of our own reality. i.e., if someone doesn't believe ghosts are possible, it will be very difficult for them to see ghosts, etc.

3) Dieties feed off the energy of its followers. We "create" dieties as separate entities, if you will, out of our own will.

I do not click well with "high magic" or ceremonial-type magic. I prefer low magic, kitchen/hedge magic, and what-not. I think the idea of a sigil is really interesting and personal.

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic, or into it? Or is this a taboo topic?

Thanks!

there's a few of us here....I was reading three different books on chaos magic at once on my iBooks and then they decided to bloop off my iBooks along with a few other downloads from scribd. so I haven't got them back yet.
but yep....

[GoldenSiren]

I am currently reading "Condensed Chaos" by Phil Hine , and I'm finding many things to click with my preconceived views. I also found the site, Chaos Matrix.

For example, I've believed the following for a long time:

1) The most powerful magic is magic that is personal. Doing a ceremony/spell that doesn't make sense to you won't be very powerful.

2) We create the bulk of our own reality. i.e., if someone doesn't believe ghosts are possible, it will be very difficult for them to see ghosts, etc.

3) Dieties feed off the energy of its followers. We "create" dieties as separate entities, if you will, out of our own will.

I do not click well with "high magic" or ceremonial-type magic. I prefer low magic, kitchen/hedge magic, and what-not. I think the idea of a sigil is really interesting and personal.

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic, or into it? Or is this a taboo topic?

Thanks!

First question: I'm curious on what exactly you consider "chaos magic"...? Because a lot of my views are similar to yours, but that doesn't necessarily tie into chaos as I see it. So can you give a description of what you're talking about?

[Jabberwocky]

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic]or into it?

It's certainly my background/starting point. But it was always a road as opposed to a destination for me.

That said, Phil's stuff is made of awesome and win and I still happily recommend it to people. (Although, interestingly, Phil doesn't define as a chaos magician any more).

Or is this a taboo topic?

Nah. Frankly, most chaotes wish they were still the outrageous and shocking new kids on the block.

[Jabberwocky]

First question: I'm curious on what exactly you consider "chaos magic"...? Because a lot of my views are similar to yours, but that doesn't necessarily tie into chaos as I see it. So can you give a description of what you're talking about?

For a pithy description of what's commonly known as "chaos magic" I'd go with the following:

1. Results based magic. (Where practise is based on the desired outcome).

2. An approach that sees belief systems as a tool as opposed to an end in themselves. (So a chaos magician might work within a Wiccan framework one day and then work within a Christian framework the next).

That's it in a nutshell. Why is it called "chaos magic"? It's a nice little phrase. I'd see it as much as a way of 'marketing' oneself in the wider occult community as anything deeper.

[triple_entendre]

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic, or into it? Or is this a taboo topic?

Ah, I remember my chaos magick days. The community I was in, seemed to attach their philosophies very much to Peter Carroll's. I rediscovered the notebook with all of my old sigils a while ago. They're pretty, some of them, but they just feel like doodles now.

I still cast in gnosis, still banish with laughter, recently made a servitor, but am still vaguely embarrassed when my spiritual experiences lean more towards Otakukin, and only very recently have I begun to grasp "changing paradigms" again -- and my approaching understanding of it is vastly different from what it used to be.

[cigfran]

Is anyone currently performing chaos magic, or into it?

I'm currently doing a fair amount of reading in it, and tend to see things somewhat as you have described here, though I am less into the formalism and ritual surrounding sigils that Chaos Magic seems to be founded on.

Aside from Phil Hine, I'm getting a lot from Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult which contains, among other things the glorious "Pop Magic!" by Grant Morrison. That, with a full side dish of Left Hand Path stuff as printed in The Fenris Wolf, for instance, is keeping me quite happily adrift.

Which I find I much prefer to any fixed ism... especially Discordianism.