The Book of Abramelin

[Celtag]

Has anyone used or have this book. What are your experiences with it, or any thoughts on it would be great!

[RandallS]

Has anyone used or have this book. What are your experiences with it, or any thoughts on it would be great!

I've read it. To be honest, it never interested me much as the magic system is long and drawn out and very incomplete -- at least in the main English version (Mathers worked from a French edition that left out four books). Another issue, the English translation has the initial operation (contacting your holy guardian angel) taking 6 months. All earlier sources I'm aware of have it taking 18 months.

[Celtag]

I've read it. To be honest, it never interested me much as the magic system is long and drawn out and very incomplete -- at least in the main English version (Mathers worked from a French edition that left out four books). Another issue, the English translation has the initial operation (contacting your holy guardian angel) taking 6 months. All earlier sources I'm aware of have it taking 18 months.

I was just curious, I ran across some info on it in a documentary and I wanted to see what is was all about, I heard it was very dangerous to use.

[Wickerman]

I was just curious, I ran across some info on it in a documentary and I wanted to see what is was all about, I heard it was very dangerous to use.

Most ceremonial magic has with it an element of danger, I work from some of Crowley's writings. Also most magic texts intentionally leave things out. Maybe they figure that knowledge has to be earned, so they give you enough to puzzle the rest out.
I am not familiar with this particular book though I would be interested in reading it. Be careful with any new system, and be sure you really understand it.

[Celtag]

Most ceremonial magic has with it an element of danger, I work from some of Crowley's writings. Also most magic texts intentionally leave things out. Maybe they figure that knowledge has to be earned, so they give you enough to puzzle the rest out.
I am not familiar with this particular book though I would be interested in reading it. Be careful with any new system, and be sure you really understand it.

That's why i ask here first before just diving into it. I know Crowley used this book to preform a rite and supposedly it didn't turn out very well.

[Wickerman]

That's why i ask here first before just diving into it. I know Crowley used this book to preform a rite and supposedly it didn't turn out very well.

It's a good idea.

[RandallS]

I was just curious, I ran across some info on it in a documentary and I wanted to see what is was all about, I heard it was very dangerous to use.

In its most incomplete form, I'm sure it is somewhat dangerous to use. Most old "goetic" grimoires are somewhat dangerous as they were generally written under the assumption that you already knew some of the basics.

[cigfran]

Most old "goetic" grimoires are somewhat dangerous as they were generally written under the assumption that you already knew some of the basics.

Speaking about this in some detail - though in the context of he Grand Grimoire and Red/Black Dragon, not Abramelin - is Peter Grey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqaWSgkComU

[Micheál]

That's why i ask here first before just diving into it. I know Crowley used this book to preform a rite and supposedly it didn't turn out very well.

He didn't have much success the first time, but eventually accomplished&adapted it. You hear about some people that have went insane attempting the Abramelin Operation, and then others who claim to have accomplished it in a few months going about their normal routine&working normal job hours. I'm somewhat skeptical of that, but who's to say really? I guess it depends on the person and their approach.

[Agonistes]

Has anyone used or have this book. What are your experiences with it, or any thoughts on it would be great!

I have done some commission work, engraving, based upon this system.

Here's a link to the entire book, which the part you're looking for is based upon the third book, at the bottom of the page.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/abr/index.htm

That's the French-to-English version.