DivEx - Satsekhem

[SatSekhem]

I'm starting to seriously think about job hunting, what with my wallowing having taken me to eight months passed my getting fired. The thing is that I'm looking back at the type of job that I was fired from and I kind of think I'm being ridiculous and silly. So, with that being said...

Is it really a good idea to be going back into the type of work I was fired from? And if I do look into that area, will I even be hired?

[Teigue]

I'm starting to seriously think about job hunting, what with my wallowing having taken me to eight months passed my getting fired. The thing is that I'm looking back at the type of job that I was fired from and I kind of think I'm being ridiculous and silly. So, with that being said...

Is it really a good idea to be going back into the type of work I was fired from? And if I do look into that area, will I even be hired?

Depends on the circumstances of the firing. I've gone back to the same field I was fired from before. Be prepared for explanations of the details of who/what/when as relates to your being let go.

If it's something you did enjoy, then I'd say go for it

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

Is it really a good idea to be going back into the type of work I was fired from? And if I do look into that area, will I even be hired?

If you don't mind waiting til tonight sometime, I will tackle this. I'll do a straight yes/no for the first part, then an outcome spread for whatever answer the first spread gives, and one for the opposite outcome just as a check.

Warning - I've stayed away from reading since I retired, just to reinforce that I did retire, so I may be a little rusty at this point.

Absent

[SatSekhem]

If you don't mind waiting til tonight sometime, I will tackle this. I'll do a straight yes/no for the first part, then an outcome spread for whatever answer the first spread gives, and one for the opposite outcome just as a check.

Warning - I've stayed away from reading since I retired, just to reinforce that I did retire, so I may be a little rusty at this point.

Absent

Absolutely! And I really appreciate it. I'm actually getting all teary-eyed that you're willing to help. Well, that and I can say, "ABSENT GAVE ME A READING ONCE! WOO!"

[SatSekhem]

Depends on the circumstances of the firing. I've gone back to the same field I was fired from before. Be prepared for explanations of the details of who/what/when as relates to your being let go.

If it's something you did enjoy, then I'd say go for it

The circumstances behind my firing were... horrific. I was informed that I was a bully, then that I had allowed bullying, followed by being insubordinate, before they decided to stick with the "allowing bullying to happen" in my store. In reality, I have no clear idea as to why I was fired in the first place except that they took the word of a 19-year-old girl who no-called, no-showed over me who had given them sixty hours a week of hard work, every week.

In regards to explaining it to any future employers, I have some pretty politic remarks about why the company and I parted ways, as well as why I took so much time off before finding a new job.

[Aster Breo]

In regards to explaining it to any future employers, I have some pretty politic remarks about why the company and I parted ways, as well as why I took so much time off before finding a new job.

That sounds like an awful experience! I don't blame you for needing some time to recover.

I know this is a divination thread, but it caught my eye for some reason. Maybe so I could say: In my job hunting and in my interviewing candidates, I've found that honesty is the best policy about things like that. Explaining that you and the job were not a good fit and why, plus what you learned about the situation and how you would handle it differently now (even if that includes something like going over your supervisor's head to right a wrong or resigning sooner or something) is usually received fairly well. As long as you're professional about it. Bad-mouthing your previous employer or disclosing sensitive info about them is almost never a good idea.

I'm sure you know all this, but I had that nudge to post and I've learned not to ignore it. If it's not helpful to you, maybe someone else needs to read that.

I apologize for temporarily hijacking your divination thread. ;-)

Good luck with your job hunt!

~ Aster

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

Is it really a good idea to be going back into the type of work I was fired from?

Okay, I use a nine-card yes/no spread with four chapters of two cards each, and one card that is read two ways.

The answer to the question is no, you shouldn't, with the reason that you would be perceived as having the potential to abuse power. You would not be given power because of this, but you are used to and good at using power. You would be frustrated and so would your employers, who would see how you could be best used but be unable to give you those positions. (Emperor reversed in centre position)

Supporting a no decision - The stress of such a situation would (and in the past has) damage your home life and emotional state. (Hanged Man reversed, 4 of Rods)

To ignore the answer - your best bet would be to go in with an incomplete resume (probably means leaving off or lying about the reason you left your last job) and presenting yourself as completely new to any kind of authority. They would then let you rise to your own level, as long as they didn't find out. (Knight of Pentacles reversed, Fool reversed)

Feelings regarding this answer - bitterness and urge to fight it out. A need to reclaim a certain pride of position. (Queen of Swords reversed, Page of Swords)

Probable response after thinking about it - relief on a certain level and willingness to engage with something new. (Two of Cups, Six of Cups)

Usual gibberish warning applies. (plus additional rustiness warning)

I'm going to combine the outcome spreads for same field/new field into one options spread. It will be my next post.

Absent

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

I'll do a straight yes/no for the first part, then an outcome spread for whatever answer the first spread gives, and one for the opposite outcome just as a check.

I just realized that what I'm offering isn't exactly what you asked. I think the yes/no may have answered all of it (it's why I use a 9-card spread) but just in case I will do the options spread for the outcomes - if you look for work in your old field, or if you try something new.

This is a 7-card spread. I phrased the question so that the left side is what happens if you turn away from your old field, as advised in the yes/no, and the right side is the outcome if you go back to that field anyway. The final card is sort of directional advice.

For personal satisfaction, if you move to a new field you will have control of yourself and a long-term purpose. Chariot
If you stay in the old, you will have a challenge that you will probably succeed at if you are willing to fight. Knight of Swords.

One real-world (as opposed to inner) result of going to a new field is that you will have a chance to fulfill or complete something you started (studied, trained for) but never went after. Eight of Rods.
One real-world result of staying in the old is that you will become ill in some way - stomach problems and migraines are my usual associations for this card. Ten of Swords.

To succeed, a new field will require study and care. You will need to protect yourself and your energy right from the beginning. Nine of Rods.
To succeed, your old field will require a certain amount of deceit and play-acting. Queen of Rods reversed.

I don't know if the directional card applies to your old field or a new one, but it is involved with teaching or passing on information. Admittedly, that could cover things from training new workers, looking after students, writing manuals or news stories, running a daycare, etc. etc. etc. Probably the least specific card in this set of spreads., Page of Rods.

I hope this helps. My cards have been in a drawer in my altar for months and seemed kind of determined when I shuffled them. I could have softened some of the interpretations but I had a strong desire not to.

Absent

[SatSekhem]

Okay, I use a nine-card yes/no spread with four chapters of two cards each, and one card that is read two ways.

The answer to the question is no, you shouldn't, with the reason that you would be perceived as having the potential to abuse power. You would not be given power because of this, but you are used to and good at using power. You would be frustrated and so would your employers, who would see how you could be best used but be unable to give you those positions. (Emperor reversed in centre position)

Supporting a no decision - The stress of such a situation would (and in the past has) damage your home life and emotional state. (Hanged Man reversed, 4 of Rods)

I did have a very difficult home life and emotional state when I worked for Greed, Inc. (My pet name for the ex-company.) And I had issues when I worked the same job type, for a different company, in Texas. I guess I'm just thinking that if I go with what I'm "good at" then I'll be more likely to succeed. However, in the mean time, I get to destroy myself, my family, and my home in the process. As well as become the power-hungry egotistical maniac I probably was when I was with Greed, Inc.

Feelings regarding this answer - bitterness and urge to fight it out. A need to reclaim a certain pride of position. (Queen of Swords reversed, Page of Swords)

This is definitely related to an urge to "prove myself" as capable.

[SatSekhem]

For personal satisfaction, if you move to a new field you will have control of yourself and a long-term purpose. Chariot
If you stay in the old, you will have a challenge that you will probably succeed at if you are willing to fight. Knight of Swords.

One real-world (as opposed to inner) result of going to a new field is that you will have a chance to fulfill or complete something you started (studied, trained for) but never went after. Eight of Rods.
One real-world result of staying in the old is that you will become ill in some way - stomach problems and migraines are my usual associations for this card. Ten of Swords.

The real world result is very interesting. I've been going back and forth since I got fired about going back to school. I'm at the point where I think I should just head back, hope to the gods my transcripts are still current enough so that I don't have to retake the basic classes, and get my damn history-anthropology degree. I've been dreaming about it since I was 22 years old, living in Texas for cripe's sake. It would be nice to say that I finished somethingit.

Prior to getting fired, I was having severe stomach upset and headaches. I had been having headaches with the company since my promotion to a second assistant manager and it only got worse as time got by. It was actually because of the stress-related 'illnesses' that I was put on Welbutrin in the first place. Sure, I have bad days and I still get headaches now, but I don't have to take Welbutrin to deal with anything... except quitting smoking.

To succeed, a new field will require study and care. You will need to protect yourself and your energy right from the beginning. Nine of Rods.
To succeed, your old field will require a certain amount of deceit and play-acting. Queen of Rods reversed.

I'm not sure how I would be able to protect myself, but if I'm pushing for my degree with as much heat as I can see myself doing, then that advice is incredibly handy. Also, a certain amount of deceit and play-acting is all my old job was about. There are lots of days when working at a gas station is less than pleasant. lol

I don't know if the directional card applies to your old field or a new one, but it is involved with teaching or passing on information. Admittedly, that could cover things from training new workers, looking after students, writing manuals or news stories, running a daycare, etc. etc. etc. Probably the least specific card in this set of spreads., Page of Rods.

Hm... New. I definitely get the sense that this is from the direction of my new field, which would entail going back to school and learning, but also passing that information along when I leave the schoolyard, so to speak. And also, I've been debating writing a pagan 101 book so it might have something to do with that as well...

I hope this helps. My cards have been in a drawer in my altar for months and seemed kind of determined when I shuffled them. I could have softened some of the interpretations but I had a strong desire not to.

Absent

I'm glad you didn't soften anything. I'd be more likely to continue to hem and haw as opposed to saying, "No. No. This is not a good idea." Thank you so much for taking a break from retirement.