Graveyard dirt

[ZombyFrogg]

If I am thinking right graveyard dirt is used for protection right? I was wondering if it could be used in a witches bottle for protection. I know usually people use urine, but I don't think I can bring my self to pee in a jar (actually four because that is how many I need) And the type of birth control I take I don't have a period so menstrual blood is out of the question so I am trying to figure out something else to mix with the pointy, rusty, sharp, broken things in the jar....

[monsnoleedra]

If I am thinking right graveyard dirt is used for protection right? I was wondering if it could be used in a witches bottle for protection. I know usually people use urine, but I don't think I can bring my self to pee in a jar (actually four because that is how many I need) And the type of birth control I take I don't have a period so menstrual blood is out of the question so I am trying to figure out something else to mix with the pointy, rusty, sharp, broken things in the jar....

That one is iffy. Graveyard dirt from an ancestor's grave was supposed to be used for protection. Yet graveyard dirt is also associated to curses and foul deeds. But one also has to consider the whole notion of consecrated and unconsecrated soil and graveyards, and to a great degree what consecration means to the party involved. For most it equates to the Christian concept of prayed over and holy ground that evil can not cross the boundary off. Yet for other practices consecration is a far different concept and notion.

That really not even considering the notion of how can a person consecrate something that is already consecrated regardless of what a person does to it. For many animist / Shamanic practitioners and even many witches one can not consecrate the ground for the Earth is a living thing and consecrated regardless of how man uses it.


Though for me I really can't say how it is used other than many books list it as a possible ingredient in spell work. Those I knew over the years who were lineaged through Santeria / Hodoo / Vodoo / Voudoun type practices never would say as it is also used as a componet in creation of a zombie.

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

If I am thinking right graveyard dirt is used for protection right? I was wondering if it could be used in a witches bottle for protection. I know usually people use urine, but I don't think I can bring my self to pee in a jar (actually four because that is how many I need) And the type of birth control I take I don't have a period so menstrual blood is out of the question so I am trying to figure out something else to mix with the pointy, rusty, sharp, broken things in the jar....

Go for it. Cultural perception of graveyards and graveyard dirt is of a protected place where demons and evil can't cross. It doesn't matter where else exactly the perception might come from unless it is a named concept in your own practice, in which case you would have a specific method to go with the concept. Otherwise the fact that you are of the common culture yourself gives you the power and permission to use it.



Are the four bottles for the four corners of your property, four levels of a house, or four people? That can determine how you use it, and what else might help.

Absent

[spoOk]

Go for it. Cultural perception of graveyards and graveyard dirt is of a protected place where demons and evil can't cross. It doesn't matter where else exactly the perception might come from unless it is a named concept in your own practice, in which case you would have a specific method to go with the concept. Otherwise the fact that you are of the common culture yourself gives you the power and permission to use it.

Are the four bottles for the four corners of your property, four levels of a house, or four people? That can determine how you use it, and what else might help.

Absent

if your looking to add an element of yourself....then just spit in the jars or include your hair. I think salt and vinegar would work equally well in terms of non biological versions of earth and pee. if it was simply adding an item to offend and warn off? then spit should be fine. my two cents.

[ZombyFrogg]

Are the four bottles for the four corners of your property, four levels of a house, or four people? That can determine how you use it, and what else might help.

Absent

Four corners of the property.

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

Four corners of the property.

Then dirt is as appropriate as personal fluids, since something that can't get on the property is unlikely to be able to get to those inside the boundaries.

As spook points out, there are other substitutions available if you want them too. If there is significance to the dirt being from a graveyard, though, I would use that. I have used dirt from actual family graves to make spells more powerful.

Absent

[SatSekhem]

If I am thinking right graveyard dirt is used for protection right?

From what I've gathered, it's use for protection, but it's also used to add boosts to spells. In Vodou, different graves will have different levels of power. An ancestor's grave would probably be your best bet since this is a level of protection that's centered around you. I know a number of people who keep ancestral graveyard dirt around for just such an occasion, or also, to keep around.

I believe nails, also, are used in protective jars.

[SatSekhem]

From what I've gathered, it's use for protection, but it's also used to add boosts to spells. In Vodou, different graves will have different levels of power. An ancestor's grave would probably be your best bet since this is a level of protection that's centered around you. I know a number of people who keep ancestral graveyard dirt around for just such an occasion, or also, to keep around.

I believe nails, also, are used in protective jars.

There are basically three ways that Graveyard Dirt is employed in hoodoo: in spells of protection, in enemy tricks, and in coercive love spells . Despite its inclusion in such harmful formulas, graveyard dirt is not evil per se, and it has uses all its own that reflect its venerable stature in the African religious practice of ancestor veneration.

From Lucky Mojo.

[ZombyFrogg]

Then dirt is as appropriate as personal fluids, since something that can't get on the property is unlikely to be able to get to those inside the boundaries.

As spook points out, there are other substitutions available if you want them too. If there is significance to the dirt being from a graveyard, though, I would use that. I have used dirt from actual family graves to make spells more powerful.

Absent

I don't have any family buried here at least not that I know of. There is a cemetery right down the road from my house that I frequent. I always feel very safe and calm there no matter what time of day or night. I had thought about taking some from there. Maybe from the cemetery but not necessarily a specific grave?....

[Marilyn/Absentminded]

Maybe from the cemetery but not necessarily a specific grave?....

Most cemeteries around here have a kind of borderland between wild and manicured lawns, with the wild ones being at the edge - still consecrated but unused. If it is a general spell and I don't have any family buried there I will use that. I have never used dirt from a complete strangers grave, but I have used it from graves of people I know of, even if I do not know them. A couple generations of my family have grown up in this area, though, and the Ojibwe side has been here for centuries, at least, so I haven't needed to use a stranger's grave.

I think it is the 'graveyard' part that is important, rather than whose grave, and I don't think I would worry about who was buried there. I've never heard of a dead person being possessive of their dirt, at least as long as it's just dirt and not bones (some pretty grim legends around bones, though).

Absent