What to do when a spell goes wrong?

[fallenangel]

Long story short....I atempted a protection spell, twice...it made things worse for this person. What do you do when things like this happen?

[monsnoleedra]

Long story short....I atempted a protection spell, twice...it made things worse for this person. What do you do when things like this happen?

From my perspective that's difficult to answer. The main reason being you have not told us what you did, how you did it or what you called upon to perform or activate it. Protection spells can take any number of forms and formats.

Yet the most important part to me would be what makes you think it failed or went wrong? In that capacity it becomes a matter of degree's of success or failure. For instance if I cast a protection spell and it fouls up to the point where nothing in their life now matters I succeeded for I have protected them from all things to include happiness, success, failure, etc.

As to what I would do, honestly that would depend upon what I see as the results of my actions or spell. It could range from simply tweeking my spell to out and out canceling it and siphoning off the remaining energy or destruction of any forms of assistance I worked with it.

[Rhyshadow]

Long story short....I atempted a protection spell, twice...it made things worse for this person. What do you do when things like this happen?

Another thing to ask is "Are they deserving of what's headed their way"

Don't look at me that way

Had this happen, someone wanted a protection charm, but as always I tossed a spread out, looked at it, raised an eyebrow at them and they winced

Turns out it was a reprisal headed their way and they deserved every bit of crap that was about to land on them

Of course I refused to protect them from that - they needed the lesson

Sometimes an 'attack' like that is just a smack upside the head

"YOU IDJIT"

Could be that what's causing the spell to fail and reverse in this manor is exactly that

[fallenangel]

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For instance if I cast a protection spell and it fouls up to the point where nothing in their life now matters I succeeded for I have protected them from all things to include happiness, success, failure, etc.

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For the most part, I see what you are getting at. However, I am unable to see how "protecting" someone from all things can be viewed as a success. For me, that would be considered a deliberate, harmful attack...something I was trying to protect them from in the first place. I cannot fathom hurting someone as a protection matter.

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense....I am still trying to figure out a lot of things.

[monsnoleedra]

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Had this happen, someone wanted a protection charm, but as always I tossed a spread out, looked at it, raised an eyebrow at them and they winced

Turns out it was a reprisal headed their way and they deserved every bit of crap that was about to land on them

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That reminds me of some thing that happened to me with a novice I was working with. The person wanted to avoid something by placing a protection spell about a friend. Unfortunately the spell simply caused it to magnify in intensity to get through to the person being protected. What might have been a simple finger smack enlarged to a significant life altering event because it had to be that much stronger.

That novice found out real quick that fate or karmic return is a killer when you try to intervene against its course. I suppose that's why I do not encourage protection actions for anyone other than myself or my immediate family members, ie wife, children and gchidlren.

When you start trying to protect even the closest of friends you never know what all they did or what all your trying to protect them from. In extreme cases even going so far as to trap yourself in the tidal surge that is coming for them by trying to protect them.

[monsnoleedra]

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For the most part, I see what you are getting at. However, I am unable to see how "protecting" someone from all things can be viewed as a success. For me, that would be considered a deliberate, harmful attack...something I was trying to protect them from in the first place. I cannot fathom hurting someone as a protection matter.

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense....I am still trying to figure out a lot of things.

It's a success in that it did protect them from everything. The good, the bad, the imparticial all of it for nothing could or did get through. They were untouchable by any outside influence or source that could possibly harm or injure them.

Think of it like a dam upon a river. The dam stops all water from passing its boundaries and holds everything before it. It succeeds in its design purpose. The fact that things dry up and die behind it because no water passes through does not make it a failure. It just means it wasn't well designed nor considerd all facets of what success could mean and what failure it would cause.

That's why spell, sigils, glyphs, etc have to be so well planned and though out to make them do what you want them to do.

[fallenangel]

Another thing to ask is "Are they deserving of what's headed their way"

Don't look at me that way

lol...I just did, and then I had to stop and think...that makes a lot of sense, once given some thought.

Had this happen, someone wanted a protection charm, but as always I tossed a spread out, looked at it, raised an eyebrow at them and they winced

I wasn't asked to do this...I did this on my own, but I see where you are going.

Turns out it was a reprisal headed their way and they deserved every bit of crap that was about to land on them

Of course I refused to protect them from that - they needed the lesson

Sometimes an 'attack' like that is just a smack upside the head

"YOU IDJIT"

Could be that what's causing the spell to fail and reverse in this manor is exactly that

Yeah...he most deff needs the proverbial smack upside the head, and I am starting to believe that you are exactly right in this instance. I just don't like it that I am somehow tied to what went down, it doesn't sit right with me.

i guess I just feel that I need to "fix" things when something goes wrong with someone I love.

Thank you for your insight...it was a very valuable lesson.

[fallenangel]

That reminds me of some thing that happened to me with a novice I was working with. The person wanted to avoid something by placing a protection spell about a friend. Unfortunately the spell simply caused it to magnify in intensity to get through to the person being protected. What might have been a simple finger smack enlarged to a significant life altering event because it had to be that much stronger.

Thats very interesting...I'm going to have to think about that for awhile.

That novice found out real quick that fate or karmic return is a killer when you try to intervene against its course.

Believe me, lesson learned here!

I suppose that's why I do not encourage protection actions for anyone other than myself or my immediate family members, ie wife, children and gchidlren.

I'm going to stick with that too.

When you start trying to protect even the closes
t of friends you never know what all they did or what all your trying to protect them from.

That is a valid point...and one that I need to remember, instead of letting my feelings get in the way.

In extreme cases even going so far as to trap yourself in the tidal surge that is coming for them by trying to protect them.

Out of everything, this makes the most sense...I realize now that is exactly what happened, and the Protection spell was the last thing I knew to try before giving up and dealing with the aftermath...when it hit.

Thank you so much. I have learned a lot from what you have said.

[fallenangel]

[QUOTW] It just means it wasn't well designed nor considerd all facets of what success could mean and what failure it would cause.

That's why spell, sigils, glyphs, etc have to be so well planned and though out to make them do what you want them to do.[/QUOTE]

Ok...I get it now. Thanks for the clarification

[RandallS]

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For instance if I cast a protection spell and it fouls up to the point where nothing in their life now matters I succeeded for I have protected them from all things to include happiness, success, failure, etc.

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