Guessing at an unknown spell

[monsnoleedra]

Whether she actually did a curse or not, I'd say do a protection/banishing spell as this could give him peace of mind at the very least. Work with the intention of protection or sending the energy back to her and I'd imagine that would be more than enough. You don't have to know EXACTLY what this woman did or did not do, just the fact that you have a good idea that it came from her is enough.

This makes me think of what one of my teacher's used to say, The best laid curse is one the cursed person makes up for themselves!

To use the notion of a crossed circle makes me think of Hollywood more so than any practical symbology of cursing. Now I admit not having seen it and relying upon what is written greatly reduces my basis to go on but this sounds more like using the person's own persceptions than an actual curse or spell for that matter.



But the point I see here is not so much did she or didn't she do anything but that someone else assumes she did.

[Nixie]

This makes me think of what one of my teacher's used to say, The best laid curse is one the cursed person makes up for themselves!

To use the notion of a crossed circle makes me think of Hollywood more so than any practical symbology of cursing. Now I admit not having seen it and relying upon what is written greatly reduces my basis to go on but this sounds more like using the person's own persceptions than an actual curse or spell for that matter.

But the point I see here is not so much did she or didn't she do anything but that someone else assumes she did.

This is what I meant when I said she uses magic in very self serving ways. She would make things up or change things if it didn't suit her or was too much work for her. All her "magic" had to serve her, just her, in some way other another. She never used magic or energy to for anyone else. She never pray for anyone else or send good energy to anyone. I guess this very self centered behavior should have been a sign to us.

He was very worried his alter was tainted so would never be able to use it agian but his mother has taken it and is going to do many days of cleansing rituals on it. This has made him happy. He and a friend preformed a binding spell, I don't like them so I did not partake in it. We believe the more energy put into a spell the more powerful it will be so a few of us preformed protection and clarity spells with him. We found him a charm for happines and good luck. I did some home protection spells on his new house. This is the first time I have ever used salt in a protection spell. I wanted him to see first hand that the salt could have been used for something other than a curse.

I will always be an ear and shoulder for him but I have done all I can do now so I hope it helps him. I am ready for the drama to be over and for us all to move past this.

[monsnoleedra]

.. He and a friend preformed a binding spell, I don't like them so I did not partake in it. We believe the more energy put into a spell the more powerful it will be so a few of us preformed protection and clarity spells with him. We found him a charm for happines and good luck. I did some home protection spells on his new house. This is the first time I have ever used salt in a protection spell. I wanted him to see first hand that the salt could have been used for something other than a curse.

I will always be an ear and shoulder for him but I have done all I can do now so I hope it helps him. I am ready for the drama to be over and for us all to move past this.

I learnt to curse and hex from an elderly Italian lady who taught me componets of Stregia and a family tradition. One of the points she always made was that if you can't curse a person you can't bind them either. Her premise was to effectively curse one had to be able to seperate their signature from that of the person they were curseing / hexing. The same applied to bindings, in that you have to totaly seperate yourself from the person to be bound less you bind yourself to them. Main reason is that a binding and a curse / hex were really not that different in purpose or application.

A great deal of it being that a curse / hex works to turn a person's energy inward upon them and have them use it to manifest the results. A binding does much the same in that it turns things inward and attempts to stop them from being able to project outward. Yet if the binding is not done properly (by my teachings) they create an open siphon between themselves and the one they bound. LIke a leech it just pulls and pulls, using the binders energy more than the one who was bound to begin with.

SO protections tend to fail for they have an open spicket. A spicket that allows for things to pass out and return in with no attempt at blockage. BUt like I said that is from the way I was taught.

[RandallS]

SO protections tend to fail for they have an open spicket. A spicket that allows for things to pass out and return in with no attempt at blockage. BUt like I said that is from the way I was taught.

IMHO, leaving such an "open spicket" is very bad form on the part of the person casting the curse. Sure it can make protection harder, but it also leaves a huge hole in the caster's protections. Someone even semi-knowledgeable can use that connection to counterattack without even having to figure out who the caster is.

[monsnoleedra]

IMHO, leaving such an "open spicket" is very bad form on the part of the person casting the curse. Sure it can make protection harder, but it also leaves a huge hole in the caster's protections. Someone even semi-knowledgeable can use that connection to counterattack without even having to figure out who the caster is.

Oh I very much agree. That open spicket is a killer and a sure fire way to suffer from the curse / hex they have spun upon another or the binding they tried to impose upon another. That was one reason she stressed so much about knowing how to curse / hex and detach yourself from it and close off all connections and how that was so important when you tried to bind as well.

One can attack through it or be attacked via it. Yet the really problamatic facet is that you can attack outward towards another yet attack youself as well through the feedback or so called standing wave of energy it creates. One of the reason's in my opinion that so many see bindings and curses / hex that appear to backfire upon the caster.

[Dragonfly68]

He thinks that the spell is projecting onto the woman that are interested in him. I guess his wife said somethings about how she knows he will end up alone for the rest of his life and when he asked her if she cast a curse on him she just giggled at him before she hung up the phone. He is adding that to his list of reasons he is sure it was a curse. I am sure she is just messing with him.

Sounds to me like she's just screwing with his head, letting him drive himself bats--t crazy thinking she's done something to him while she hasn't. Why not try a spell to break any ties he has with her - emotionally or energy-wise. Maybe that'll help his peace of mind. Or a reflection spell. Send the stuff back to the sender. Just a thought.

[Nixie]

Sounds to me like she's just screwing with his head, letting him drive himself bats--t crazy thinking she's done something to him while she hasn't. Why not try a spell to break any ties he has with her - emotionally or energy-wise. Maybe that'll help his peace of mind. Or a reflection spell. Send the stuff back to the sender. Just a thought.

I have issues with magic that causes malice to others, that includes magic that effects a persons free will. If I were the one that taught the person the magic they were useing to cause harm to others than that would be my exeption, I would feel it was my duty to right the wrong I had a part in. That kind of magic feels wrong to me. Most of the magic she uses was taught to her by him and his family. She was a student of his mother and father when they met and started dating.

We have asked him to do a seperation spell. He says he will but doesn't know any himself so after he gets the divorce taken care of he will. I feel this is an excuse, lots of people in his life know seperation spells and are more than willing to take the time to help him. He refused to do a seperation spell after his first wife left him. He told me last night he is reaping what he sowed. His first wife left because he cheated and now his secod wife cheated on him.

Finally figured out where she is living now so she will be served with divorce papers tomorrow. She will drag it out as long as she can becuase the military is forcing him to pay her as long as they are still married. I don't think there is any spell to help with that. I think energy work will be helpful but I feel that way about most things. =)

[dragonfaerie]

He still thinks it is a curse and even more so now because two woman he was romantically interested in got hurt this past week. One he had to take to the ER because she was having the on set of a heart attack, she is in her late 20s. The other woman got into a car wreck two days before their first date, now has whiplash so bad she can hardly walk. I say it is just bad luck and bad timing but he is sure that his ex-wifes cures is now effecting others.

Crap happens.

My mother had a stroke when she was 29 years old. Her first heart attack came along at 32. A few years ago, we lost a guy at work in his early 20s to an undiagnosed heart problem. He was 1 day into his honeymoon.

By all means, have your friend do whatever protective magic he feels he needs to reinforce his well-being. But IMO, he should also worry about moving on with his life and what that means. I'm a little curious at the idea that he's just back from a tour of duty, highly upset over what his wife has done, and is suddenly romantically interested in two women and dating? And he's cheated in the past? Sounds like he's got some serious issues to work out and perhaps he's projecting his own guilt onto all this drama mess... and that's got nothing to do with magic and curses.

Karen

[Nixie]

I'm a little curious at the idea that he's just back from a tour of duty, highly upset over what his wife has done, and is suddenly romantically interested in two women and dating? And he's cheated in the past? Sounds like he's got some serious issues to work out and perhaps he's projecting his own guilt onto all this drama mess... and that's got nothing to do with magic and curses.

Karen

I didn't mean to make him come off like that kind of person. Everyone makes mistakes in their lives and cheating on his first wife was one of his. It was one time over 10 years ago and he came clean to her all on his own. As for dating other woman, it isn't like he is trying to get remarried already.There is nothing wrong with him keeping his options open and enjoy the company of woman that like him in return. His wife started her affair 2 months after he left and lead him on for over a year so her and her boyfriend could live off his money so why shouldn't he move on.

He is a doctor, a soldier, has just spent over a year in a horrible place putting his life on the line to treat other soldiers to protect our country, and he is a wonderful generous friend and father. He doesn't deserve that kind of judgement. He deserve respect. I came here for help not for anyone to put my friend down.

[Etheric1]

Sounds like he's got some serious issues to work out and perhaps he's projecting his own guilt onto all this drama mess... and that's got nothing to do with magic and curses.

Karen

I think you need to be careful making judgments like that without knowing all the facts. It's easy to jump to conclusions when only a few things are known.

Yes it could be projection and nothing more, but calling a person out when they already do a lot of selfless acts (ie: service as a medic in a warzone) is shady on your part. There are a lot of military service men and women who don't have faithful spouses while they are gone too. Sounds like in his case, he had a real winner of an ex. We all make mistakes, and sounds like he's owned up to his in the past, so let's not pass judgments because we do not know all the facts.