I learned one thing for sure

[Jonanna]

I have to start reading more. I am in a circle and I do ritual on my own and with them and I have been practicing for about 8 years but I have no idea of what most of you are talking about when it comes to books... where do yo find them all?? llewellens doesnt have that many i dont think... and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library. can anyone recommend sites where I can buy books ? I love religion in general and learning about all of the different kinds of Pagan would be wonderful!

Jonanna

[Asch]

I have to start reading more. I am in a circle and I do ritual on my own and with them and I have been practicing for about 8 years but I have no idea of what most of you are talking about when it comes to books... where do yo find them all?? llewellens doesnt have that many i dont think... and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library. can anyone recommend sites where I can buy books ? I love religion in general and learning about all of the different kinds of Pagan would be wonderful!

Jonanna

www.amazon.com of course

www.alibris.com

www.half.com

I've used all of these to hunt down books for school as well as my own studies. There are also book exchange sites but I don't recall any urls off hand. If you're tracking a particular title you can do a google search for the title then get the isbn and do another search under the 'shopping' tab. I've had some luck that way.

[Remy]

I have to start reading more. I am in a circle and I do ritual on my own and with them and I have been practicing for about 8 years but I have no idea of what most of you are talking about when it comes to books... where do yo find them all?? llewellens doesnt have that many i dont think... and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library. can anyone recommend sites where I can buy books ? I love religion in general and learning about all of the different kinds of Pagan would be wonderful!

Jonanna

I get most of mine from Amazon and Half, like Asch mentioned. But we also have stores where I live called Half Price Books. They are a wonderful used bookstore chain. Despite the fact that where I live is pretty conservative and mainstream bookstores and libraries do not have much to offer, the used bookstores always do.

The other thing to possibly check into is campus libraries. Some will allow public access, others will not, but they usually have a much more diverse selection of books than city libraries on academic topics, including religious studies. You may be able to check out their collections on their websites. If you know the book you want, you can also search for it in libraries surrounding you at www.worldcat.org

[Jenett]

I have to start reading more. I am in a circle and I do ritual on my own and with them and I have been practicing for about 8 years but I have no idea of what most of you are talking about when it comes to books... where do yo find them all?? llewellens doesnt have that many i dont think... and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library. can anyone recommend sites where I can buy books ? I love religion in general and learning about all of the different kinds of Pagan would be wonderful!

Let me put on the librarian hat...

Llewellyn actually has a quite substantial catalog - one good tip is to take a look at the various Pagan publisher websites (Llewellyn, New Page, Weiser, Kensington, Immanion/Megalithica, and there are a number of small presses - plugging each of those those names into your favorite search engine should turn up the publisher websites on the first page of results.)

Your public library may not have a lot directly about Paganism, but there's a decent chance they have some materials that are of use - check out the Encyclopedia of Religion, any reference sets about Religion in America, any books about mythology, that kind of thing. How useful those are depends a lot on the resource, but chances are there's some good foundational information that can get you started and maybe pointed at other resources.

(And if you're comfortable telling me what your local library system is - either in this thread or in PM - I'd be glad to do some digging for you and see what other titles might be available, though it may take me a week or so, as I'm out of town this weekend.)

I definitely second the idea to try your local public university - since they're tax supported, most public universities offer some kind of support to community users (what it is varies: sometimes you can use stuff on site, but not check things out, sometimes there's a yearly fee for borrowing privileges, which can be worth it if you're doing serious research.) Also check with any colleges (public or private) that are near you geographically - many times, they'll offer something similar for local residents.

(And a lot of places, if you send a polite email, don't make heavy demands on them, and time your visits for times they're not swamped with student or faculty needs, may be willing to come let you browse their collection and maybe - depending on their set up - use their databases/etc. on site.)

Speaking of databases: your local library system or that university may have access to a wide range of articles in their database subscriptions. For example, _The Pomegranate_, a Pagan-studies journal, is part of a couple of the major databases (I want to say it's in Academic Search Complete, but I'd need to double check that from work tomorrow. That's a really commonly used database.) Some databases can include book reviews aimed at librarians or booksellers, which can be a fun way to find out a bit more about Pagan books (usually only a handful of Pagan books get reviewed in these sources each year, but the ones that do tend to be pretty well done and useful in a variety of ways.)

Another way to see what's out there is to look at Amazon - if you type in a search term (like "Wicca"), select a department ("Books" or "Kindle", probably) you'll see a bunch of ways to limit the search - including new and recent releases. I browse through these every couple of months to see what's new and upcoming. You can see an example here - and what I see on my screen is that there's a "New and upcoming" that gives me options for the past 30 days, past 90 days, and coming soon

Amazon does a lot of personalisation, but you should see something fairly close to that if you do the same search.

The one thing to note if you're doing a search like that on Amazon is that there are a bunch of people taking old public domain (and sometimes still under copyright) works and reformatting them, and putting them up. They also include a lot of self-published books, a few of which are awesome, but some of which really suffer from self-publishing (poor writing, insufficient editing, formatting issues, etc.)

So, if it's not from one of those published I mentioned above, it's a good idea to go check out the book in more detail before you buy it. Look for reviews from independent sources, and ignore any review that's totally positive (especially if *all* the reviews you find are either incredibly positive or really vague) - even really awesome books have things they don't do perfectly.

(All those publishers have also put out some lousy books, as well as some really awesome ones, so it's good to check *any* book you're looking at out in more detail. Asking here is a good way to do that if you can't find other info, too.)



And of course, a search on "Wicca" somewhere like Amazon will also include people, from, say, evangelical Christian groups, talking about how Wicca is wrong and evil (and generally with tons of misinformation....) so you need to keep that in mind as you look at titles too. Or you'll find things like romance novels or urban fantasy that mention Wicca somewhere in the description.

Finally, I've got some suggested reading (focused on religious witchcraft, which is what I do, but the various SIG groups here also have some awesome reading lists for other paths) on my website at http://gleewood.org/seeking/suggested-reading/ - you might find the articles on evaluating what you're reading and the role of 'classic works' in modern Paganism particularly helpful - they're all linked from that page.

In terms of buying books, obviously, Amazon will cheerfully ship them to you - but you can also buy from a range of Pagan stores, who will also be happy to sell to you. Magus Books in Minneapolis (one of my former local stores) has a wide selection, and so does the other substantially sized store in Minneapolis, Eye of Horus. Both would generally be glad to order something for you, too. (Most independent bookstores are - and the chains are too, if you're comfortable asking there.) Some sellers will take a personal check or money order, though with the former, you may need to wait for it to clear into their bank account.

[Shawnee]

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I used abebooks.com to purchase some of my herb/pagan books. Book descriptions, shipping on time, etc has been good so far. The prices are quite good.

[Jenett]

I used abebooks.com to purchase some of my herb/pagan books. Book descriptions, shipping on time, etc has been good so far. The prices are quite good.

Abebooks has a great reputation for used.

That said - I try not to buy used when I can avoid it, for books where I want to encourage the author and/or publisher to have there be more books like that. (That's because first sales are the only way authors or publishers have to really track how popular a book is.)

Obviously, if price is a huge issue, then used makes a lot of sense - but in the cases where you really want a book to succeed, buying new is a great way to make that clear to multiple places in the publishing industry. (And it's not only the author and publisher of *that* book - authors and publishers of other books also have an idea what's selling well or what there's interest in...)

(Me, I buy used when I don't really want to encourage there to be more books like that - books I want so I can disagree with specific things in them, for example, with page references. But even when money's been tight, I've generally preferred a few really good books where I know the money - little as it is - is going to the author to lots of used. For my general reading, that's what libraries are for: libraries don't count as sales, but at least loan numbers get factored into future publishing decisions in various ways. Used sales are completely opaque in terms of what's going on with them.)

[Juniperberry]

I and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library.

Oklahoma Public Library Directory

[sugarmagnolia]

and i live in oklahoma so i cant just go to the library.

What part of Oklahoma are you in? There are a few areas, not many, that are pretty tolerant. Back when I lived in western OK, the nearest library was in the next county, and they had nothing on the shelves that was even remotely Pagan.

[Jonanna]

What part of Oklahoma are you in? There are a few areas, not many, that are pretty tolerant. Back when I lived in western OK, the nearest library was in the next county, and they had nothing on the shelves that was even remotely Pagan.

I live in Oklahoma City. The last time I was in the library I was doing a research paper on charles manson and the libriarian got all huffy when I ask for books abotu him and ask me what I needed them all for... so annoying.

[Jenett]

I live in Oklahoma City. The last time I was in the library I was doing a research paper on charles manson and the libriarian got all huffy when I ask for books abotu him and ask me what I needed them all for... so annoying.

Librarians are, regrettably human - but that's not the way we're supposed to behave when helping people.

I'm about to be out of town for the weekend, but will do some digging and see if I can suggest some titles that are in your library system that might be helpful to you. (Might not be before Monday: depends on how much quiet time I get/need this weekend.)